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October 16, 2007

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Brian

Paul,
Wisconsin teacher salaries ranked 22 in the nation in 2006.
http://www.weac.org/News/2006-07/nov06/rankings.htm

Not that the top ranking is any good. Teachers' average salaries rank lower than nearly every other profession requiring comparable training.

Shane Wealti

Great analysis. This is why I read your blog on a daily basis.

Dan Sebald

This sort of falls in the category of WSJ grousing about teenagers being paid too much at the Madison city pool. But, to be fair, Don Huebscher didn't mention teachers in particular. The interesting thing is that the conclusion of his article, in itself, masks one of the problems. If the cost of health care weren't so high, then the benefits the public employees get wouldn't be worth as much, right? That might obviate his concern. Still, the idea that others' fairly benign quality of life should be brought down (by NAFTA or the state legislature) is troubling.

Yeah, no way on a flat rate vehicle charge. Environmental impact and vehicle weight (big factor on road longevity) should definitely be considered. Vehicle cost isn't so important. (Discouraging people from better quality anything is always dodgy. Lower environmental impact vehicles probably cost more!) Here's to a (big) gas tax. The more you use, the more you pay. When Gov. Doyle rescinded the indexed gas tax before an election season is when he lost me.

Russ

First, it's a well known fact that global competitive pressures have been forcing most private sector companies to hold the line on total employee compensation for at least a decade. Contrast that to public sector employees that refuse to accept wage and benefit freezes. Public sector workers refuse to share in the economic pain that competing in a global economy has imposed on the entire world. That is unacceptable and I don't think private sector workers are going to put up with it much longer.

Second, there is specific job sector classification that accounts for many thousands of public employees. "Management, professional, or Related Occupation". The average salary for Wisconsin public employees in that job classification is $33.23. The private sector average for the same classification is $32.75. For that job classification public sector benefits are 50% higher than the private sector.

Data source: U.S. Bureau of of Economic Analysis and Labor Statistics.

The BLS data speaks for itself, total compensation, wages and benefits, for Wisconsin public sector workers are considerably higher than their private sector counterparts in the same job classifications.

Now please Paul, don't continue to insult the intelligence of all the private sector citizens in this state.


LarryC

One thing I have never understood is why private employees, who really want what public employees have (as far as benefits), want to take something good away from public employees? Why don't private employees demand the same benefits that public employees have? Even better, why not demand the same benefits that legislators have? I can only guess that employers, who don't want to pay for the benefits, have somehow contorted the whole argument so that private employees actually believe it is in their best interest to have poor benefits. In reality it is only in the employers best interest to not provide good benefits.

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